Randy Suber, NMMI and CCN

Randy Suber, NMMI.

I attended my 50th class reunion at New Mexico Military Institute a couple of weeks ago. After a memorial ceremony for classmates Hugh Michael Staver and Monte Orr, we talked a bit about Randy Suber who is interred at NMMI.

I heard lots of different stories about Randy and the circumstances around his death. I wanted to set some straight. This may not be news to many but for others how and what happened.

Never assigned an official crest or patch, SOG personnel accepted this unofficial self-designed insignia.

Randy was assigned to CCN. Command and Control North, MACV-SOG (Military Assistance Command, Vietnam Studies and Observation Group). MACV-SOG was a joint service high command unconventional warfare task force engaged in highly classified operations throughout Southeast Asia. The 5th Special Forces channeled personnel into MACV-SOG (although it was not a Special Forces group) through Special Operations Augmentation (SOA), which provided their “cover’ while under secret orders to MACV-SOG. The teams performed deep penetration missions of strategic reconnaissance and interdiction which were called, depending on the time frame, “Shining Brass” or “Prairie Fire” missions. Randy was a member of Recon Company and One-One (second in command and the second American) on RT Rattler. RT Rattler was a Nung team. Ethnic Chinese, these Nung soldiers were best-known for their loyalty to US Special Forces and had a reputation as the most-feared fighters of all the minority groups trained by the Americans.

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Q: What the heck is an EIT?
A: Enhanced Interrogation Technique

No matter what you think about it, this subject is likely to come up again. Here in the attached CRS is information your Congressman receives. Not classified but not really advertised either.

This report briefly summarizes what constituted EITs, provides background on their adoption and use, and discusses differing views on three questions that were frequently addressed in the discussion and debate of this topic:

    1. Did the CIA’s use of EITs constitute torture?
    2. Did the CIA’s use of EITs run counter to American values and morals?
    3. Were the EITs effective in producing valuable intelligence, not otherwise obtainable through standard interrogation techniques?

Click here: Perspectives on Enhanced Interrogation Techniques

Opinions from a guy lucky enough to spend time in Special Forces.